It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. They earn money through drug trafficking, often theft and sometimes by extorting businesses. I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. Hi JW, yes I agree with you about many things. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Its all speculation until more answers are found. From Chriss other article it seems the girls took a taxi to the hiking starting point? A tragedy and a mystery but in its core, this is only a horrible accident. Seriously? But, Who took the photos on later dates? Much, much more revealing. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Would they really have gone along a dark spooky ravine, which is obviously a dead end, if they were trying to find their way back to Boquete? One could argue that the inherent risk of traveling to under-developed countries is exciting for the reason that theres potential danger and less authoritative control. Nothing. Maybe the girls were not so clever at tech but they did not leave voice or video memos to document their predicament not goodbye messages for family. Thats the very first thing that crossed my mind. However, on closer inspection you can see that the left hand side of the post is really a vine or root hanging straight down and the white at the top is a patch of light in the background, as if there was a small narrow window in the bank Through which the sun is shining and it also looks as though someone is looking through it at Kris. Hey Im not sure if someone already pointed it out but does everyone see the orange drawing on the bottom right? The women wanted to see as much of Boquete as possible,hiring a guide to showthem around on April 2, 2014. (this was enhanced by an AI as someone who has studied this sort of thing professionally, explains some of the distortions and weird patterns in the photos leaves and vines, the AI distorted her face lol and it made it appear she has no arm from the elbow down). Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Just pressing the button to turn the screen on provides you with the relative information, ie, whether you have a signal or not. In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. Particularly given that you have very admirable aspirations for what you intend to do by investigating the trail on the ground. Photoshopping is not hard to do nor is it very tactical as many have proposed here. In the leaked images some 90% of the original information is irretrievably lost trying to read anything into any of the remaining spots and splotches is fools errand. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. And more to the right of the insignia, is that water, an underground river maybe, there is like a light at the end. There was enough evidence in this investigation to solve the case and possibly find Kris and Lisanne while they were alive. If a psychic reading leads to some legitimate form of tangible evidence and made public, then thats excellent, but otherwise I think its mostly a distraction. If you are in the middle of the jungle, lost, and desperately trying to find service, why waste your battery by logging into your phone. Loads of speculations as to why they didnt leave messages to their families. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. I have created a comparison of the original photo leaked to the public, the artificially upsampled version thereof and the (presumed) full resolution picture taken from the article linked to in my previous post (all cropped to show only Kris and further 2 magnified). They lose their money and leave Panama with their lives. You see the pattern to the left and right of her arm. Thank you for reading. Did they lose it right at the start of the hike, but didnt bother to go and look for it? It would also be useful to know if the metatarsal bones of Lisannes foot had showed any signs of healing. The non-waterproof lycra backpack mysteriously shows up, with completely dry contents. Her skin does not look pallid like that of a dead person, it is still pink. I hope justice is found for these girls, so very sad & just horrifying. The green rock directly in front of Kris appears to float in space. The blue object looks like it could be a crushed beer can. Latin America has tens of thousands of small communities, all of which operate slightly differently to some degree. Photo #509 was permanently deleted which takes advanced technical knowledge, plus a computer. While the case has since been declared closed by both the Panamanian and Dutch authorities (who worked on . Froon and Kremers were both in their early 20s; they traveled to Panama to work with children. Its too cold to sleep at night, so they try to keep moving, until, in the darkness Kris falls down a ravine, hitting her head, and going into a coma. Right above it. Highly probable. This is the real one: I agree w rope around waste thst wasnt there before, hair is completely down Aldo, shes in distree. There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. The same thing happened to the taxidriver who drove Kris and Lisanne to the forest. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Wow. if both then was the other found in their room? Yes, the photo data was manipulated. We have no final police report only a lot of leaked info much second hand and multiple hand. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. Even the bones, the few that remain. This is a fake and the pixellation errors can be seen up close (the gap in the crook of her right arm is IN FRONT OF her). Probably something like peanut butter, which is a typical energy-dense low cost food carried by people who are traveling light. Another important detail was disclosed to the public: Hctor Abrego was actively searching for the missing . There seems to be no pictures of the dog. But most people going on a hike with a dog would take some pictures of themselves with the dog, right? Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. The picture where she is crossing the stream and looking back, her smile looks forced. Thats perplexing to me. To touch on the disappearance case of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, we can vividly see the incompetence that took place, even under the spotlight of international pressure. Of course, there are always exceptions. Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. Also, it wouldnt make sense if Lisanne didnt know Kris password. There are flaws in the manipulations, such as the photo timeline, the inconsistent resolutions, the missing photo (or video), the red lines on the shirt, incorrect shadow positioning, etc. Nothing can explain the bones, the cut foot, their underwear in one of the backpacks. Was someone who's still out there responsible for their deaths? There appears to be a blue pieces of trash on the ground. It seems likely it was tribal. And one of the images chillingly showed the back of Kris' head with what some sleuthes believe is blood leaking from her temple. Kris en esta foto, tiene sus manos atrs, que podran estar atadas o esposadas . The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been . Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. They would have shared all the info with the private investigators whom they have hired. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. 1 Long-Haul Tourism Market. I dont think so. https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lMUOsoUME0Q/YLJzTuPRWbI/AAAAAAAAHDc/431BbuGq2PQEgxV65djGrwcBUCL5BEh8QCLcBGAsYHQ/s486/closeupkrs.jpg. Take care. In fact, to bring a dog for a walk is less common in general, because most dogs are permitted to go outside anytime they want. Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. They obviously protect the predator(s). Unfortunately, this camera setting is not public knowledge, but the default mode is Continuous.. But in numerous case there are adverse priorities that lead to incompetence in disappearance investigations. I think the most important photos were not the daytime ones; I think the most important photos were some of the legible nighttime ones. Hi Chris, and thank you for your nice comments! If thats what Im seeing, I have no doubt that it was murder and that this photo and several others have been manipulated. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. https://u.cubeupload.com/beavermatic/KrisKremersFullPhoto.jpg, Her hands are not tied behind her back! In the end, maybe this photo has more information that was originally thought. This would cover natural causes and the rucksack contents being in perfect condition. They want to protect their tourism industry but they also dont have the resources to effectively stop gang violence. Update Dec 2, 2021: The full-resolution version of this photo was released in 2021. But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. All Froon and Kremers photos were taking with phones and a camera from six years ago, probably jpeg, with all the associated algorithm issues, let alone we have no idea of the provenance of the photos we are all seeing, I doubt any of it is first generation copies straight from the devices, and every time we copy a photo we risk changing the data somewhat. After cops searched the area where the backpack was found, they discovered Kris' clothes neatly folded along the edge of the river. Hi Abrahm, thank you for your comment. Even the cheap pair of sunglasses are in perfect condition. For a monster (him or them) this was enjoyment. He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. Again NO SIGNAL! News Group Newspapers Limited in England No. One obvious question - has anybody ever found the place that is in this photograph. Eventually theyll have to confront these issues or nobody will visit and expats/immigrants/investors will leave. All of it couldve just gone away.? 1. Highlighted areas of interest (some not yet discussed I think): I think the night pictures were made by the killers to make it look like they were lost and trying to signal for help. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. I dont think theres anything untoward I think shes saying look at this tunnel. Kremers'slocked phone showed someone entered awrong PINseveral times. Forced disappearance. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. Watch Lost in the Wild Season 1 Episode 1. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. Why werent those outgoing calls being completed? That does not make sense if they were genuine. 4. No accident. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. I was definitely thinking it looks like her hands might be tied behind her back here. This basically kills the idea of living in Panama on permanent tourist status. In fact the last 4 (pre-nightime) photos are at odds with the others. In reality, foreigners are usually not the target of gangs. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. I havent seen any discussions on this. If it is not possible to join those two points together then that would at least shine light on the possibility that a third party was involved at some point leading to the appauling possibility that they genuinely were lost for some time (until the 5th?) I think someone took them there. Very interesting.. I did not cover all of the accidents and trials and tribulations along the way leading to their death. This is because people who knew the area were able to recognize that the nighttime photos were likely taken at Caldera springs, more than 20 miles from the area the girls allegedly went missing at. . Jump forward to Boquette now and you will see a photo of the girls in the street, and behind them is a shirtless fat white man. Looking forward to reading what Bethzaida Pitti comes out with in the book she is co-authoring about the case. Out of the dozens of calls, only one managed to connect, but broke up after just two seconds due to the lack of reception. "For now, however, this finally marks the beginning of our grieving process and provides us with a path to closure.". Certainly this could have been due solely to incompetence alone, but they ignored performing relatively simple investigation tasks more than once. Her hands are not tied. Totally agree, Alexis. Rocko Akira Clapp. Maybe someone had her in there sitting on the rock, and she heard them coming back and got up quickly to turn around. She would probably have gone into what looks like a cave or hut behind her, which may have been a booby trap leading to a long drop either through the floor or at the back of the cave. Please remember to be considerate of the two girls that lost their lives and their families. Machismo culture is very real and respect is considered to hold a higher level of importance in Latin America. Why go to another country to hike when America and other safer countrys have plenty of hiking places ? Gang initiation rights are unknown these small gangs dont have an official policy as you might see with the larger gangs its usually just do as we say and well protect you. Or whoever deleted the photos may have overlooked to delete this one as they could have done it in a hurry as well. Regarding accidents (My father a doctor always said accidents do not exist. Thats suspicious and leads me to question if government was involved to some degree. The simplest is for them to disappear. Even if there is only one it can provide information of they were not which is important to reduce the places they could be because much of the conspiracy theories I see seem to suggest they were not on the trail. More info here. It has to be her arm and hand that are blocking that part of her shirt. What is that clear brown glass-looking circle in the upper righthand corner? Kris was not happy with the situation and was just going along and not looking too cheerful in the pictures. I upscaled that image with AI correction and its 100x more clear that there is obviously a trap or makeshift roofing above her. 100 calls to 911, and NOT ONE attempted call to immediate family? However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. We have 5 people ending up dead, and the skulls of the girls are never found. The jungle was searched for another ten days with the help of the cops from the Netherlands - but there was no sign of the girls. Nothing more sinister than that. It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. Apparently this villager travelled abroad, adopted extremist Christian views, returned home and started a cult in his own village which resulted in human sacrifices of other locals. According the guidance given to the US Embassy, immigration officials will require tourists who leave the country to stay a minimum of 30 days outside of the country before reentering. There is something white on the object, which looks like a white piece of cloth. Hi Carin, thanks for your comment. ?If they were attacked by people immidiately after this, how they took the photos?? What if she was trying to get fire with the mirror and the paper? How Many Kids Does Linkin Park Have? The authors told The Daily Beast: "It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. This is an interesting analysis, of this photos and the case in general. Government corruption is the core of the problem. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. But because of their theatrics and ignoring the evidence, the story and curiosity will continue to keep this case alive. This photo of Kris Kremers is identified as Photo 505. I do believe that this appears to be some sort of structure though, it does seem like some vines / branches have been woven together to form some sort of hut and even the AI enhancement would not make the blue appear on the floor so distinctly, the color and look almost reminds me of a scrap of denim like material? She is not tied up, there is no rope around her waist and there are no hidden or blurry people in the photo. Does anyone else see what looks like the back of someones head, their bare back and arm inside the manmade circular object? This person was a local cleric. 679215 Registered office: 1 London Bridge Street, London, SE1 9GF. The roof or cover is not substantial enough to keep out rain but it could work as camouflage from the air. And that looks to be a stocker style stand. Search shoe with foot in it found. Feel free to comment again or send me an email. She looks as if her hands are above her head in a way someone would have them if a police officer were to tell them to put their hands above their head. I could be wrong, but to me this looks like it could be a hunting device of sorts, like a pit/catch trap. Agreed the thing on the tree trunk looks man made but even if it is it is not sinister. Granted, other dangers certainly exist and thats why we can only speculate about what happened to them. Cheers, Reg. Did they each have a camera or only Lisanne? This would mean that this photo possibly shows the entrance to a cave leading inside the wall of rock behind it. On April 1, 2014, two students from the Netherlands namedLisanneFroon and Kris Kremers went on a hike in Panama with a dog. Perhaps incriminating photos existed on the camera before and new photos were taken to overwrite the cameras memory files, therefore preventing the old photos from being extracted from the cameras digital memory. Theycalled 112, the emergency number for the Netherlands, as well as Panama's emergency number, 911. Interesting that you. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? . How long does an AI correction take for you to do? perhaps there is much that was missed by a very bungled police investigation. Thanks for your comment. In all, the State Department says that in 2013 and 2014, a . A Panamanian search and rescue team helped recover the bodies after more than 690 hours of searching, authorities said. scary I dont see any pit. So many clues in all these pictures. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. Shes been beaten into submission. Thanks, John. WHY? Oliver, I just looked at your 1st link, and I can clearly see a human face in the red circle. There is no question thats what it is. They protested in China - now they've gone missing. One or more abductor did know the phone PIN but not all people involved knew. I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. Even though both kept contact with their families daily through messaging and calls? Haha, Im assuming this is a joke, right? Often, they. Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. If you think America is a safe country youre extremely ignorant or niieve. While I was reading over the story again, I decided to review their photos one more time. Thank you so much for walking the walk. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? I previously read that online, although it was a while ago and I cant remember where I read that. After taking a deep dive into all the evidence and flying out to Panama to do their own investigation, the pair concluded that the girls deaths were an accident. Theyre also exceptionally rugged and dangerous, especially during the April-to-October wet season. They probably came off the summit the wrong way. There are a lot of different indigenous tribes of Panama, most of which are peaceful. The students' phone records also tragically revealed how they desperately tried to call the police. When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. "Tourism contributes 10% to EU GDP and creates jobs for 26 million people," notes the European Union Tourism Trends report. It belongs to the long green leaves we are seeing up there. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. Is there somebody behind the insignia? There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems.
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