He was ready, he said, to get treatment for his drug and alcohol addictions. Former Mongols President David Santillan continued to testify. The Mongols are now claiming that throughout their attempt to defend the club in the long-running criminal case, their own leader was secretly talking to the government. Michael Tyrone Delaney for The New York. Mongols Motorcycle Club says LIL Dave was an informant as they head back to court June 5, 2022 A new episode of Motorcycle Madhouse with Hollywood & Chinadoll Mon-Fri. Get with the Insanity on all major Podcast Platforms Cavazos was raised by his father in Highland Park, Los Angeles, California and joined the Avenues, a Mexican American street gang, at an early age before . After testifying briefly in court Monday, Annie told Eyewitness News that her husband has never been a confidential informant and that she only sent the text message because she wanted to destroy him in the eyes of the Mongols. Representatives from several local law enforcement departments also said they had no such records. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business.https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/05/us/mongols-new-trial.html00:00 Overview of the New York Times Article01:40 I know I said I wouldn't cover this anymore \"BUT\"03:56 Mongols MC Say LIL DAVE was an informant05:44 What the Mongols Rico Case was about07:30 Where's the paperwork09:26 The explosive video11:50 How long was lil dave a member of the mongols13:47 Why wasn't it done all the time15:47 WOW he can't do this17:14 Usually he had other members with him19:10 The new policies21:44 The leaked strategy#Harley#HarleyDavidson#Biker#Protocol#MotorcycleClub#MC#Tradition#MotorcycleRally#Motorcycles#bikers#outlawmotorcycleclubs#bikerlife Insane Throttle Support Club Become a memberNow, Insane Throttle/Motorcycle Madhouse Radio YouTube and AudioDisclaimer, Meet the Insane Throttle Contributing Columnist James Hollywood Macecari, Motorcycle Clubs Riding Clubs and Associations Near Me Index &Listings, Our Policies here at Insane Throttle Publications. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. The judge will most likely consider a series of procedural matters on Monday, lawyers said, with additional hearings expected before any final ruling. The government, in its own appeal, is making another run at the Mongols logo, renewing an earlier request for a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the emblem. For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery. ", RELATED: Mongols Motorcycle Club vows to fight trademark loss. The Mongols have been fixtures on the biker scene since 1969, when the club was founded in Montebello, Calif. Mongols biker club is denied new racketeering trial after claims its leader was informant Mongols members walk over the 6th Street Viaduct in Los Angeles. "I was literally trying to destroy him," she answered, adding that she didn't understand what he was talking about in relation to Ciccone. I think it would be time to really clean house over there, anyone that lil Dave came in contact with on a regular basis would have to go? "Absolutely not, unequivocally no," says David Santillan. Anyone can read what you share. During the almost 13 years he led the Mongols, Mr. Santillan appeared to steer the organization away from its past recruitment of Mexican criminal gang members and a culture of total underworld activity that the feds feasted on, in terms of prosecutions, said William Dulaney, an expert on motorcycle groups who was formerly an associate professor of national security at the U.S. Air Forces Air Command and Staff College. 02:34 LIL Dave is all over the main stream, 04:10 Why did lil dave not want ciccone on the stand, 06:45 Our invitation for Ciccone to come on the show, 15:14 Mongol Lawyer thinks LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. (Photo by The Associated Press). As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. In other words, Ms. Santillan wrote in the text, he is a rat. In the video, played several times during the hearings, Ms. Santillan is talking to her husband on speakerphone when he informs her that Mr. Ciccone will be retiring. That is the conviction and fine the Mongols are now trying to have set aside. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide. He cant protect me, he told me, so we have to have an exit strategy, he told me, Mr. Santillan, who sounded drunk and sounded distraught, said to her. After this mistake I realized I went against everything i believed in regarding both sides of the story and said enough of this drama bullshit . ", "So, he gave me a heads up and that was it. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. In exchange, the club said in its motion, the agent appears to have spared Mr. Santillan from serious legal consequences for several offenses since 2011. agent. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. The current national leaders of the Mongols said they were convinced that the clubs former president, who controlled the Mongols defense team, had acted improperly. In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. One of the clubs defense lawyers during the original trial, Stephen Stubbs, testified that Mr. Santillan had told him during the trial that he was regularly meeting with Mr. Ciccone as the proceedings were going on, even as he was overseeing the clubs defense team. I've heard rumours he's also not actually mongolian. ", RELATED: Racketeering verdict in OC might force Mongols biker club to lose logo. As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give each month. agent over the years because it helped avert trouble. Now it's at a point where guns, instead of fist are used to settle things. Mr. Santillan said it was ridiculous to think that Mr. Ciccone smoothed things over for him. He is a rat, Mr. Santillans wife, Annie, suggested in a text message that became a key piece of evidence in the case against the group, which was founded in Southern California in 1969 and whose members are mostly Hispanic. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. "I know we've had a rapport and I always looked out for you and you were always respectful. In another instance, in 2014, Mr. Santillan and his wife got into a brawl with other people at a racetrack, the Mongols filing says. I take the hit on this one because I shouldve waited for his side- But I always take a the word of a club member and this time it was a mistake. LIL DAVE WAS COMPROMISED AFRAID AND TURNED ON HIS CLUB. The California motorcycle group had claimed that its former president, David Santillan, was a government informant. If youre going to listen to a dude that does nothing but market gimmicks AKA CULTURE VULTURE, on YouTube, part of the scene with no time in at all, thats on you. She also said in a text message to other Mongols, now filed with the court, that her husband had acted for a time as a confidential government informant. The current president of the Mongols Motorcycle Club is David Santillan, a man who claims that the organization has changed its code of conduct to exclude drug abusers and criminals. In the case that led to the racketeering conviction against the Mongols, Mr. Ciccone had acted as the case agent. Clubs used to represent more than territory, it was about freedom and doing what you wanted. A federal appeals court is separately considering an appeal of the conviction. Want to know whats wrong with the scene and why people are not joining clubs anymore? 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He and his wife, Annie, were estranged after he had an affair. He's accused of being a confidential informant and working with the government during the Mongols' trial after his wife,. Mr. Santillan said he talked with the A.T.F. A jury ordered the forfeiture, but Judge Carter reversed the order, concluding that it infringed on the groups constitutional rights. Never in my life have I ever implicated anybody in the club for some kind of nefarious activity. Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. AS far as the other dude with the other channel is concerned. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. On one occasion during the trial, Judge Carter expressed his displeasure to lawyers for both sides after being told by a U.S. The club was ordered to pay a $500,000 fine in what prosecutors hoped would be a down payment on putting it out of business. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. and other law enforcement agencies have long gone after biker organizations by co-opting members as informants and infiltrating the groups with their own undercover agents. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. The lawyer in charge of the retrial motion, Joseph A. Yanny, said the Mongols hoped to prove that an improper relationship between Mr. Santillan and Mr. Ciccone during the 2018 trial allowed the government to hear things it should not have about the Mongols defense strategy and even adversely influenced the Mongols presentation of their case. Copyright 2023 KABC Television, LLC. Both men also rejected the claim that Mr. Santillan had revealed privileged defense information to the government while his motorcycle club was on trial. Jonathan Turley, a constitutional law expert at George Washington University, said that if a federal agent was seeking confidential information about a criminal defense, that would be an extraordinary transgression.. After one year he's done and he can't protect me, so we have to have an exit strategy.". Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. The #1 Biker News Website Since 2011-Covering up to minute biker news including Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs & Biker News Worldwide, For more than two decades, federal law enforcement authorities pursued the Mongols, a notorious motorcycle club whose members had a long history of murder, assault, drug dealing and robbery.In 2018, the government scored a victory of sorts. 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Both Mr. Santillan, a Mongols member for almost 25 years who was voted out of the club in July, and the agent, John Ciccone, who retired in December after 32 years at the A.T.F., deny that Mr. Santillan was acting as an informant during the trial, though Mr. Ciccones sworn declaration does not address whether Mr. Santillan had acted as a confidential informant in the past. No one at all can keep blaming LEO (Which I do all the time) when there is gang shit happening all the time. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Prosecutors convinced a jury in California that these crimes were not just the result of individual bikers behaving badly, but the work of an organized criminal enterprise that had participated in a campaign of mayhem. Subscribe to our Insane Throttle YouTube channel for a wide range of biker shows and news Two years after a federal jury found the notorious Mongols Motorcycle Club a criminal organization, lawyers for the club are asking a judge for a new trial accusing its former president of being a secret government informant and [] Mr. Santillan walking into a federal courthouse in Santa Ana, Calif., during the 2018 racketeering trial against the Mongols. Self-Improvement. Well let you guys have your fun, but keep your people in check, so to speak, he testified in June. Lil Dave, the president of the Mongols motorcycle club, was caught cheating on his wife s o she decided to revenge his ass by putting this video on Youtube which shows him supposedly. Sherdog.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, monitoring_string = "5200e30beed193e5fe31f8bccc2bdcbf". There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. Mr. Santillan provided records from the cases to show he had been convicted of offenses including driving under the influence, leaving the scene of an accident and disturbing the peace, and that he had been arrested, fined and put on probation. And he was tireless, Mr. DAlesio said. As for Mr. Ciccone, he had mastered the craft of executing complex investigations using everything from undercovers to informants to wiretaps to subpoenas and surveillance, said Frank DAlesio, a retired A.T.F. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. More Episodes. "It was an improper line of communication, particularly for a law enforcement personnel trying to convict an entity of being a criminal organization," Yanny said. There's a new twist in a federal case already marked by murder and mayhem. David Santillan says he was thrown out of the Mongols after a "closed door" meeting where he did not get a chance to refute the allegations against him. There is no way hes gotten away with these incidents without more significant legal repercussions unless someone in law enforcement is in the background greasing the slides for him, Mr. Yanny said. The original case attracted widespread attention because of the federal governments unusual attempt to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword and thus relinquish a big source of the organizations mystique. In other words, she wrote, he is a rat.. In one of them, according to their court papers, Mr. Santillan crashed his Mercedes in 2017 while driving impaired, damaging numerous cars parked on the street. Now the Mongols want a new trial and say their former president, David Santillan, was a confidential informant for the ATF. Desperate ideas explained, Memphis Police Department officers were impeding care of Tyre Nichols, EMT says | CNN, Marine Corps eliminating its elite scout sniper platoons. That was all it was about. The Mongols Motorcycle Club was convicted in late 2018 of racketeering and conspiracy. Eyewitness News has obtained the video that was recorded in June of 2021 when David Santillan was drunk and despondent. Mr. Dulaney said that Mr. Santillan instituted new policies, like no more club-driven drug business, and made it mandatory that members had to have a motorcycle and things like a valid drivers license and registration and a job.. The U.S. Attorneys Office had earlier tried and failed to force the Mongols to forfeit their rights to the clubs trademarked logo, a drawing of a brawny Genghis Khan-like figure riding a chopper while brandishing a sword, a landmark case that prosecutors felt would help weaken the club by undermining its visual identity. Such an order would allow anyone to use the image. The government has filed a separate appeal on that issue, seeking a narrower forfeiture order that would take away the clubs right to trademark exclusivity over the logo. Mr. Ciccone, who retired last year, testified that Mr. Santillan never served as an informant for the agency, nor did he pass on any defense information during the trial. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. Episode Website. If MCs want to be seen as a club then stop all the violence, the general public can see through all the BS, as can those who are a part of this scene and want nothing to do with clubs. Chunks of flesh and trails of blood were flying everywhere as he took full swings at attacker after attacker. But the group that was once the most powerful biker organization in the West other than its archrivals, the Hells Angels, is returning to court next week, hoping to set aside the racketeering and conspiracy convictions based on what it says is new evidence about its previous leader, David Santillan. On the stand, Mr. Santillan called the claims about his daily meetings with Mr. Ciccone an absolute lie. (He acknowledged encountering Mr. Ciccone by chance at a Starbucks near the courthouse once during the trial.). "I want Ciccone here under oath," Judge Carter told the prosecution team. He was the guy outside all the time providing cover support in case something went wrong with the undercovers.. That quest to seize the Mongols patch was part of a criminal case brought by the U.S. Attorneys Office in 2013 under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. The president of the notorious Mongols motorcycle club promised he'd put his infidelities behind him, get sober and be a better father to their children. One thing is for certain, you dont ever let people know your club affiliation over the internet. "I wanted him to feel kind of what I was feeling, the shame and embarrassment and betrayal.
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