Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! No ones been hurt by this case more than Becky Patty. I actually had written a letter to law enforcement that I failed to send, of which I was reading from. Could be to cover their own asses. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. You can't obtain things through FOIA that would interfere with an ongoing investigation nor would they just be posted somewhere for this person to get. Just thought I would steel you for that thought. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. Calling off the search the night the girls went missing was a really, really bad choice. I DO think that if there is evidence of staging that insinuates a methodology , therefore suggests it could be a serial killer. which has been viewed more than 18,000 times. You might consider joining us in our private group. 'I kill 8-year-old April Marie Tinsley. Also we have excellent sources inside the police with officers who are very close to the investigation. Its a farce! Very hard to really tell anything a lot of shadows from trees and debris on ground. DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. They hiked on to the the abandoned and somewhat dangerous Monon High rail Bridge, over Deer Creek. Your email address will not be published. I do not know why RRB is? movements and events. Were you a member of the private group? The girls took photos while strolling across the bridge, but as time passed and their family didnt hear from them, police were called for assistance. In addition, we may have more documents. If this did happen, then they wouldn't have been able to tell if Abby was posed. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. BG is a 50 year old man. Background to the Delphi Murders On Monday, February 13th, 2017, at around 1 pm, Abigail Williams and Liberty German were dropped off near the Delphi Historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana. 6) He has a family member thats buried in the cemetery near the Monon Bridge. Horrible. We are not sure of Mr. Xs current job, but we think he might be selling wooden signs that he makes by himself and sells. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. Specific mention is made that the girls were abducted at exactly 2:13 PM. Thomas Bruce, a former pastor, was charged with fatally shooting one woman and sexually assaulting two others at aCatholic Supply store in St. Louis, Missouri, in November 2018. I guess he cant make up his mind. The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. According to Business Insider senior reporter and co-founder of The Murder Sheet podcast, ine Cain, Libby had an interaction with Kline on Instagram but thought she was interacting with the person in a photo Kline posted as himself, in an attempt to catfish young girls into sending nude photos. There are signatures on the document. In the Delphi case, a signature could be very evident if both victims . I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. But the police are having a very hard time gathering enough evidence against this man to take it to court. This GPS device showed that his phone had been at the CPS building from 12-5 on the day of the murders. Bob Matlock, owner of the now-closed Jessies Bar & Grill, said Richard Matthews Allen and his wife were regular customers, often talking about the murders of 14-year-old Liberty Libby German and 13-year-old in 2017. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. This Feb. 13, 2017, file photo released by the Indiana State Police shows a man walking along the trail system in Delphi, Ind., authorities say is the suspect in the killings of two teenage girls. They have their own sources. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Im sure that was a LOL feeling for him. These are the facts about the man LE suspects is BG. Kelsi has been cleared. But know, this is deliberate. The warrant, filed by an FBI agent investigating the murders back in 2017, was to carry out a search on the home of Ronald Logan. Pretty soon these fucking machines that are dumber than rocks are going to be making all sorts of unappealable decisions about our lives because the capitalists are too greedy to hire a real human to do the job, so they buy a machine instead. Its $20. Libby was apparently enthralled by this profile, Cain said. Robert, I believe Mr. X has an ex-wife. Thats a full 18 hours. We have almost no information about the cause of death or what the crime scene looked like. The arrest of Allen could be the end of a years-long investigation during which numerous possible leads have led nowhere, and police have remained tight-lipped about details of the case. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. I dont get it. Summer months. 13, 2017. We have no idea why the order was issued. Can you spell out the name? A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, Indiana, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Double jeopardy? My money is on an edged weapon. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? You are an obviously intelligent person and have made many good points. Only a deer kit looks just like that. Im a real nice guy, I treat my commenters well, and Im basically this mild-mannered, unassuming, intellectual, professor type. The Delphi murders are a bizarre crime that has sparked nationwide attention. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9738939/Lori-Vallow-charged-conspiracy-commit-murder-death-fourth-husband-Arizona.html?fbclid=IwAR2haqAKhF0vqWzP2aKiNyDy14kIG7SCjPxtWVXndA3Dt49wvD5xXRByYT8. At the very least he could have made misleading statements. Search warrants obtained by a podcast and a local television station are shedding new . They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. A press conference is expected Monday morning. A chilling picture shows the daughter of the man arrested in connection to the Delphi bridge murders posing in the same spot where the teenage victims were last seen alive. A timeline establishing publicly known. No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. Required fields are marked *. These are the only claims that people can hold us to because with all the rest, we openly admit that the claims are Unverified, so we should not be held to any of those claims. Who Is Kegan Kline, the Alleged Catfisher Being Investigated in Delphi Girls' Murder Case? The reason why I didnt send the letter was because I was moving across country and strongly felt as though law enforcement would not take my views seriously. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. I tend to think its a doll. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. It is an open case so anything else you want to know look and maybe you will find. I am thinking of reasons why the FBI was immediately involved and now the focus is not on a possible interstate killer. The manner of death has never been revealed. The incident was nicknamed the "Snapchat Murders" after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. Photos of Abby Williams, left, and Libby German, right, at police headquarters in Delphi, Indiana. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. But it's just speculation at this point, because nothing has been confirmed. Keep sleuthing, youre on point to what I see. Not sure if its Tennessee, or Texas? She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. I I heard the girls say repeatedly, Its Elementary Watson, and 2 plus 2 equals 4. Aside from the sketches released, authorities have indicated that the killer left behind physical evidence. One thing I always have to remind myself of is that LE is allowed to lie to the public. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? David, the person involved in the leaked text messages, claimed that the girls died from stabbing. I also thought about whether the finders might have covered a body somewhat, but assume that they would have reported that anyway. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. I happen to think he probably did it, but what do I know? I tend to think that it goes deeper than only Mr. X being involved though. The fact that we were given little to no information about what really happened to Abby and Libby other than they were murdered by BG) from LE says a lot more to me than LE lets on. Several LE officials have said that Abby had a phone, whether with her or not is not known. 'Libby' German, 14, left, and her 13-year-old best friend Abigail 'Abby' Williams were murdered outside Delphi, Indiana on Feb. 13, 2017. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Theres just journalists. Today we will Discuss about Delphi murders: Crime Scene| Press Conference Update| Bodies Posed. Indiana State Police and the. Hey Robert, absolutely love reading your blogs. Answers to questions about my credibility. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. That can only mean one thing. The case is still being actively investigated. Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Did he sleep? You Go Girl! I think the girls met up with BG somewhere on that trail before they got onto the bridge. Literally anyone can be a journalist. Found an interesting article regarding the act of stating and posing bodies. X. The casing from the .40 caliber gun still remains within the creek. Indiana State Police told ABC News on Tuesday: "Out of respect for the prosecutorial process, which is being led by the Carroll County prosecutor, we are refraining from making any public statements and are going to allow the probable cause affidavit to stand on its own. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. Theres something different about this casing, it stood out to me. The crime scene photos have been widely trashed as paraedolia. He has long been presumed to be their killer. While it's unclear if police did go to gun stores, Garrett think it's unlikely because there was no mention of a gun in the case until the probable cause document was released Tuesday. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. Lists a factory as place of residence. They all go off and do their own work. Your email address will not be published. But I see the home is raised. Hobbies: Raising goats, riding and fixing up Harley-Davidson motorcycles, very avid deer hunter, handicrafting wooden signs. How do you know that LE has someone they believe is BG? They werent that close. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. The catfishing situation is not what we think. I have an official case document here in my hand. Chilling photo uploaded to Facebook a year after Delphi murders shows arrested man's daughter, 28, pose in SAME spot where victims took final snaps . A pair of binoculars. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. and our Because that is a deer kit around his waist. Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. A man was a suspect in this crime, and one document, a search warrant, are from LEs investigation of him. However, he was one of the searchers who found the bodies, and he was also known to have searched the area in the dark the previous evening. Shameful. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! After news of Allen's arrest broke on Friday, another disturbing photo of the possible perp emerged and began to circulate online. It's a strange case. Investigators tracked Logans activities on the day of the murders and determined he was not forthcoming. Because statistically, the chance that it is a crazy serial killer would be smaller. If LE actually believes that BG was 50 years old, why did they put out this statement that he looks like this ridiculous sketch of a very young man or even an 18-40 year old man? The bodies had been staged and the killing would likely have caused the killer to get . He has pleaded not guilty to the charges. You just dont know what a person is capable of. No one knows if Mr. X is guilty or not. Did he not see BG? His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. I am 100% behind you. If he didnt have his keys, he could not move his truck. Why would we do that? Here's the Update in His Case. Im not saying he is or he isnt, but I would hope that every one of his statements has been gone over with a fine-toothed comb, verified, and re-verified for good measure. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Knives. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. The voice in the clip was described as being 'not inconsistent' with that of Logan, the FBI investigation concluded. I wonder if that person is confusing the crime scene photos with the Iowa girls. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. This was posted within a Facebook group and the poster stated that it was fine to share with other groups. Where all opportunists go to insert themselves into the case. Is that also speculation? Victim was an 8-12 year old female. Here's what we've learned and what remains unclear: Abby and Libby, best friends in the eighth grade, were on a hiking trail in rural Delphi when they were killed in February 2017. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. Instead of bashing us, why dont you ask why the cops are telling us this stuff? They also think you get that way from your upbringing, especially with your father. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. A post from the horrible r/LibbyandAbby slime hole on Reddit. Just another character who got caught with CP. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. Is that also speculation? Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. So you try to make it look like theres an accident. How about getting your moneys worth? Neither Kegan nor Tony Kline can be placed at the bridge on that day or on any other day for that matter. Pregnancies are also risky for 13 and 14 year old girls. Okay, I think I have the name which I garnered from another website. A blogger/sleuthed named Robert Lindsay supposedly has one on his site, there's a camera flashing on it. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. Unverified but Likely. In the more than three years since the girls' tragic murders, very little evidence has been released about the case including the cause of death. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. There is a rumor that LE has a partial DNA sample from an unknown male from one of the girls. See? Closeup of the 'fanny pack'. Continue reading to find out what the alleged Delphi Murders leaked text messages are all about. Those aspects of the crime are the following: We feel that these facts are validated because in 1-3, they were seen by us in the crime scene photos and also by a female search party member at the scene, in 4, they were seen by two separate female search party members who had never talked to each other, and in 5, it was verified by a conversation with the girls guardian herself backed up by a postmortem photo. Your critiques are not even making sense. Children: Two daughters, one ~22, another ~30. Despite mention of a gun, it's not clear if Abby or Libby died from gunshot wounds. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. Isnt that REALLY FUCKING STUPID? Only a few seconds of the 43-seconds long recording have not been made public. Im sure its very interesting to posit your wandering speculation about what if this or maybe something or possibly why, who or what, but at the end of the day, its writing words in the air with water vapor to be blown away with the next wind. They're stills from the helicopter footage during the search. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. Crime scene photos leaked? They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Theyre not that common. There is a difference between a scene that is staged and a scene that is posed, McCollum said. You said parent, so that gives me a clue. It says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. If the early rumor is true, and Abby was posed fully clothed as if asleep, it might indicate some remorse or "undoing" by the killer. So that means he killed these girls because theyre chicks too! Doesnt sound like a logical progression of thought to me. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Seeing as there were multiple signatures left at the scene, I'm inclined to believe the killer(s) both posed the bodies and staged the crime scene. Apparently. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Yes, that is part of Leigh Kerrs testimony. Almost zero. This has helped me a lot. But we know that binoculars were used in this crime because we have search warrants and binoculars are one of the things that are listed on the search warrants. But he also got wrapped up in collecting and apparently trading real deal child porn with little girls. What do they mean hes just a decoy? I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Is there any meaning to these numbers or is he just playing sneaky, tricky games with us like these guys often do. Lets hope they find some peace. They had no history of behavior indicative of disregarding or disrespecting their parents/guardians by running off to a friends house just to show up later. Did he eat? Hes in prison where he belongs. And humans are animals too. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. Hes a greedy businessman with dollar signs in fluttering eyes that sound like clanging cash registers every time he blinks. Thanks, Mike! The family knew something was wrong. There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. Garrett explained that an "unspent bullet is one that has the casing and the projectile still together." Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? Could it that the killers were middle aged men, DP and not sure yet, maybe FSG but both dressed exact same so people would be confused? I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. He was arrested on charges of child sexual abuse images and child exploitation tied to the account and admitted to grooming underage girls online. Anyway, even if there was PIV sex, the victim would have died soon after the sex and the tiniest speck of a fetus, the size of a pencil dot on a sheet of paper, along with it. Forgive me if Ive missed this, but whats keeping police from arresting this guy? "You have this unspent shell casing near the victims' bodies, but you also have things that are really troubling to me: [The girls] are in one place and their clothes are in another. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. DELPHI, Ind. Some insist that this is merely a coincidence, but apparently LE do not think it is coincidental. Theyre Delphi related videos comparing his appearance to BG. The motive was sexual. Fact that the FBI was instantly involved would be because they have the expertise to "read" such a crime scene. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? What? I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! (The person from the FB post that is) their bodies were quite close to water. If I happened to be out that day lets say partying or doing some stuff that maybe I shouldnt have been doing, and I witnessed something and had information Im telling you right now, I would think twice, then I would think two more times before I would even consider coming forward because I would be scared shitless that LE would throw my ass in jail for something completely unrelated just like they did to RL. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. This had been done on other occasions, at least one other we know of in the 2000s.
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