We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. My sales are not still on par with TS, but I haven't published new models for quite some time, because I only have time to create models to enter challenges from time to time. Of those limited people just a hand full would actually buy models or put money towards models so if TS already has won those people we need to find our own nitch or we go out of business. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). In previous post the buyer mentioned he don't get reputation points for buying models?
Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. They could put down an amount between 1 to 5 bucks as a deposit and after sampling the model as you suggested they could deduct that amount from the final sale. Others download beautiful jpeg or tiff files to set as their desktop wallpapers at the office. If the buyer decided to buy after inspecting a sample, the seller would deduct the sample price from another 3d model. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. ,,The only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job,,?? This would be a really good way of encouraging buyers to come spend their money on CGtrader where they can find what they want faster than on other sites. [13google->http://www.google.com/] You know what is cgtrader but as firstcomer you must have strong impression that this is 3d printing site where you can buy new 3d printed iphone case which will be shipped to you. CG Trader. @IndieArt : So you definitively think that CGtrader's "change of focus" to 3D print sunk your sales? Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. Because of its design and trade/royalty system, CGTrader seems better and more advantageous, but at the end of the day, I get much more income from Turbosquid and The3Dstudio. And between CGTrader and TurbuSquid, I think, let everything will be decided in a reasonable competition. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. Besides how about your right to fair trade? Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Order 3D models. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. (e.g. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. TS has more sales because : Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! There are currently no models in your cart. In place already. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". But there are questions that are not achievable for TS, and they will not go to such steps, and it is this: 1. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. Then they would only find the relevant models and get to purchasing them right away. adentonclark is 100 percent correct in this regard! I think I do a decent job at earning my keep.. And yes, it this is like if shapeways started doing cg. Maybe CG Trader should consider a large add-on to the site, where the customers can click a link, and go to a whole new site (owned by cg trader) that does sells strictly 3d printable models :) Just an idea :). Since you havent contacted us about any of these changes being incorrect, we are resetting prices on these models one final time (see the attached CSV file listing these models). https://garagedoorrepairchesapeake.com/garage-door-replacement/. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. It would be great to have more of your feedback so we could make it better for buyers. CGtrader website is much bather coded and it just need some time to get on top. It's all fine and CGT rocks the socks off the competition. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. What I eventually hope to have is a healthy fair open market place, where collaboration , communication, people empowerment and evolution prevails over control systems, central power structures, monopolistic thinking, and maintaining of a status qou. I posted my first model today and have to say it was a very pleasant experience. I still get more sales on TS, despite having adjusted all prices to compensate their extortions. I understand CGtrader's management don't want to bet on one horse but it probable lives the two horses crippled in this case. What that means is that customers have the illusion of it being the best site out there even if the quality of the products is way below CGTrader. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. They will be very enlightening and useful to you especially if you have never built 3D models and don't know what to expect. I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. Thingiverse has allowed licenses to be transferred into another users name, which is very important option if you want to invent something and sell the ownership, else your stuck with it forever. I don't think it's possible to have WORKING site with both 3d printing and classic models. i have sold it to millenium shipping containers amongst other professional business. A possible solution for potential buyers looking to sample the work of sellers, would be for sellers to have their free sample models at a low minimal price instead of free. Ts has always been an overly expensive service and its not that good at all compare to its cost. TS beside ripping off taxes have a terrible support, I just was told in the civilized manner to F OFF, as I complained on an admin who kept my 3D model suspended for over 4 days. It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. I have to be honest about my view else who am i. I'm probably leaving this site for good, but it won't be because of you guys - it's because of the site itself. --GENERAL--. Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. Agree with every word. you should check out all the posts about 3D models quality. We even stopped publishing new models there. tax on top of a high 60% that TS keeps. If you think life is hard as a buyer you should try modeling for a living Making any money is a truly miserable experience. 60% is an insult. When a buyer leaves a bad rating for a lame reason , TS investigate and contact the buyer and if he doesn't give a serious explanation, They had shoddy products but they created the illusion of having something amazing and that was better than a PC. (Edge loops, quad poly, simple overall structure) Full Rigged with over 30 facial blendshapes and 20+ skin morph targets in order to produce better rig quality and remove some joints issues such as overlaped knees, stretched hips, etc. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. when the same type of issue occurs on CGTrader, the Staff policy is to do nothing. @skifx, apparently your feeding hand is just too small. This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". That takes longer time. In fact, I had taken deliberate steps to ensure that I included no content in my designs that could even be construed as overlap. Batman (Rig) for Maya 10. . I see no point in closing when you might as well keep it open and get a couple sales. So it is, but it's a matter of time and CGTrader will be able to master these positions. Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. Search is arguably most important feature of stocks and search in TS is head and shoulders (and then some more) above search in CGT. captainmarlowe is right. That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. Of course, as CGT reputation grows, this may change in the future (CGTrader has already beaten The3Dstudio in terms of statistics, but you also have to take into account that there are certainly a very significant amount of people coming here for 3D-printing only, which decreases the statistics in terms of regular CG models). No overt similarites in armor designs, guns, vehicles, naming- nothing. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. Renderer: Cyclse. Based on those traffic stats CGtrader would clearly benefit from more advertisement out there. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? I think that subsequently only large studios and squidguild members will remain there" CGTrader just doesn't have the exposure it needs yet to top Turbosquid but I am confident it will surpass it in time because of the quality of it's products but word of mouth is key in this business and people need to be talking more about them. Just my fifty cents. How about all products here have no restriction Google search.etc. Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . To me it feels like he is amongst us and we are performing a team effort. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. CGtrader.com3. The designers make a deal with each other and negotiate a percentage on the sales. The longing to justice is something that cannot be eradicated, the hole of human history shows that clearly. Site issues?
It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. Money in short term does not always pay of in long run. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. taken offline. But at the same time they require all rights to the model, and the model is removed from sale at all sites. During all these years we always felt Turbosquid favored a sort of chaos and unfair competition between sellers because they were profiting a lot from that lack of understanding and cooperation between content creators. In this case a collaborative action could be established to make the product more attractive. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products.
CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Having said that creating models of that high end quality is quite the burden on 3D modelers who just do it as a hobby or work 3D part time so a lot of artists are moving away from TS because they can't sell their regular models on there anymore. They simply do not get the idea that Turbosquid is just another reseller for the real product developers, and Turbosquid management and "rules" promote exactly that. If a company like Disney or NASA buys a model at TS, they advertise it as "Turbosquid customers buying Turbosquid models". still turbosquid has the most paying clients. Using TurboSquid products in Browser based games. Lots of people buy posters to print and put on their walls especially students. [google7|http://www.google.com] Money rules! They just took multiple of my most expensive items and run for it. Thor (Rig) for Maya 15. I'm a bit afraid there's always going to be issues that leaves this community divided, leaving CGpeople with a platform not able to live up to its full potential and leaving 3D print people with a platform not living up to its full potential either. Chat with Support 24/7 In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg.
The staff on CG Trader seem to be very active and listen to ideas from the community, so I will try to find time and post some ideas on how the problem could be solved. They customize those figures anyway you want. What, iterateCGI goos down? I will search on TS and when found right model I will maybe look at cgtrader if there is that same model for cheaper. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. That definitely wasn't me hoe said that turbo. It would be mess. and it's not a check-out, it's simply a gift. Imagine how much easier it would be for a games company to do a search by typing in (sword, 15 dollars and then 500 polygons. Thanks for dropping by and great news about an eventual homepage re-design. I don't know if that is still the case ( and I have no desire to check ) but that is advertising that is hard to beat. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. By registering you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. I'm even considering seriously closing my store here. Thank you again! Beautifully put IterateCGI, let's hope it is signal for more than just Tubro's downfall, but hopefully the downfall of treating 3D creators like shit. A few months went by with my models offline and during that time my GCt sales gradually went up at a level consistent with the few sales I had left behind on Ts so I just deleted all my models at Ts. Well, it was more than one year ago that I last intervened on this thread. Offering customers best prices on TurboSquid is mandatory for all artists publishing on TurboSquid. I'm just dreading that sober moment when TS offers to buy CGT to kill off the competition. You have insufficient credit to complete your purchase. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. Doing the same at Turbosquid feels as dreadful as applying for a driver's license. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. ;). CGtrader better is : Design,User friendly,royalties etc all better . Each sold model you can find anyone time in a download center. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png
Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. Pleas just stand your ground, we need people coming in not leaving out. While i've heard that TS support isn't that great in practice and they always tend to exploit sellers, but impression that they're making on buyers must be really good. The conclusion seems, that clients are either more familiar with Tsquid, or that TSquid offers something else that is so valuable that even a much lower price doesn't matter. Care to share your time machine? I tested the CGTrader rigged character morphs for Daz3D studio from your commission and it works like a charm! - Forcing people to choose a proper tagging to their objects so that we don't get scanned high poly print-ready objects in the way when we tick the "low-poly" filter, Then we're all back at Square one again. There is a lamp that looks pretty cool (Gervasoni Bolla Floor light), and is supposedly free. I wanted to test if clients compare sites (eventually wanted to avoid clients would use the expensive Ts platform to get my items). That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. 3D Model jimmy choo. Some points for and against. They already sell 3D printers on amazon so it isn't a far stretch to just add the models in the suggested items that go with 3D printers. A serious problem indeed about Turbosquid is its policy of setting up barriers to avoid having a direct link to customers (this includes banning of al communication technologies). Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! the only thing that has cgtrader extra is the freelance job posting area. Also the management is awkward on TS. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. - Do you prefer to do business with companies that takes the most profit from your products in exchange for a short-term higher revenue? I'm really happy to see CGTrader growing. So what's needed? You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. If you continue to price your models higher on TurboSquid, you will will not be able to publish your content on TurboSquid, and we will temporarily take your current models offline. Some may post their old stuff they just don't want to ask money for, consequentially it is also not representative of the work they currently do. No, I don't think it's just about SEO. TS management is by far the worst in history, they are great at Hostile take overs, yet bad at dealing with the realities of industry, i stopped all my affiliate links with TS and right now i'm sharing only the links for my products on CGT and Art station. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). Hello, We will only contact you if there's a problem with an order. Yeah nasty stuff, but hey, I better shut up because I'm one of the hypocrites that keeps supporting that place by having my work on it. I think these are questions that every 3D content creators must honestly answer for themselves. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. Dear Kanga you are absolutely right and on top of that you won't have to worry about their super buggy uploading system either. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. [http://www.google.com google5 ] Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. Apart from this it would be nice to have a system that promotes collaborative action to make the products themselves better. See the reputation, see the response rate, realise the problem will be fixed. (so you basically pay for a fraud protection system for people hoe sell themselves out exclusively). Right now, low quality models flooding this site are attracting the low budget people - that's certainly why high quality objects with pricings in accordance don't sell that much. I do not know if micro-managing brand or front-page appeal helps drive sales more effectively on other sites than on CGTrader. Doesnt matter the kind of kinky-dinky stuff the platform provides me. Turbosquid just has it backwards. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. You can just buy and return it if it is not to your satisfaction. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". I did not know about that. CGTrader has a good plateform for selling already licensed things files but not selling the licence,your trapped into owning the licence. Ebay it's ALL about direct seller/customer relationship.